# [SPOILERS] Visions from the flames: precognition, manipulation, or self-fulfillment?

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So here's a question to throw out to everyone. The visions/messages in the flames that Melisandre, Kinvara, Thoros, Sandor, Varys, et al have experienced seem to be interpreted by the characters as precognitive.

But is it possible that they are perhaps manipulations? R'hllor sending the visions knowing that the recipients will fulfill them?

Or that they are self-fulfilling in that the receipients assume they are precognitions and thus make sure they happen?

How would this impact the story?

submitted by /u/irishpisano